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i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that doesn't seem to be at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner couldn't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to negotiate with harry reid. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for reelection. house speaker boehner has shown that he's largely, not entirely, but largely. remember, his deputies were both there with him when plan b was introduced. the logical successes aren't actually there. >> paul ryan is not the guy to watch, right? so paul ryan is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives. a lot of people don't like boehner, they love paul ryan. now ryan, at the final minute, remember, he was with you for plan b. paul ryan, probably the most high profile guy, he's not running against boehner. he's not even interested. >> but robert, if the president gets this through, a
i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that doesn't seem to be at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner couldn't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to negotiate with harry reid. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for...
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>> you to include john boehner because he is the speaker of the house, and in control of of the house, but you are making a fair point that the power of the republicans to drive the debate is being under question right now, and we are not sure how boehner can do it moving forward coming to the debt ceiling, and people will look at this experience on the fiscal cliff as an example of how john boehner may or may not drive the discussion. >> and also at the last hour, horse trading gets thrown on to the table, and then they get upset about it. so what is going to be thrown out that will get them upset? >> well, the thing that will get them piqued is that tax rates. obama is preferring a $250,000 threshold, but in the process of trying to hammer out the deal, it is raised to $400,000 or $500,0 $500,000, and the base is going to be angry about that, and that is offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off on earlier such as changing the structure for social security will not likely be in this deal, and obviously, everything remains to be see
>> you to include john boehner because he is the speaker of the house, and in control of of the house, but you are making a fair point that the power of the republicans to drive the debate is being under question right now, and we are not sure how boehner can do it moving forward coming to the debt ceiling, and people will look at this experience on the fiscal cliff as an example of how john boehner may or may not drive the discussion. >> and also at the last hour, horse trading...
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my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the president wanted to get there. this came up and it caused them to fall apart. >> is that how you understand it it went down? >> i'm not sure and i'm not sure it will end at some time. they didn't reach agreement and mitch mcconnell had arrived in the senate and cook up a deal which would put this out for 18 months, once again, mitch mcconnell has to ride to the rescue. it's a very interesting situati
my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up...
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then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senator reid and senator mcconnell, than i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million american looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. you guys, i can hear you over there. i believe such a proposal
then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an...
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what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be threatened, who ends up trying to run against him, you just don't know. about the likelihood of john boehner bringing legislation that is supported mostly by democrats and a handful of republicans will bring him some trouble. that's a dynamic to watch. >> mark murray, senior political editor, thanks to you, sir. for more on what could happen as the fiscal cliff counts down. i want bring in the senior congressional reporter in politico. it's clear from what was said yesterday, that he believes that the senate leaders can put together a deal. take a listen. >> i just had a good and constructi
what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be...
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john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing in on facebook. back to the telephones. ruth on the line for democrats. caller: they talk about the fiscal clef, but they are not really interested in fiske's -- fixing the fiscal cliff. there are interested in their own party. they have been against the president from the beginning, so they are not going to change anything. they do not want to help america. what people are they for? the people have spoken, but they do not ever listen to the people. what people are the working for? host: james in new york as a deadline fo
john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing...
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all along we thought it would be between the obama white house and house speaker john boehner and there was a logic behind that. because getting legislation out of the house is the trickier part of crafting any type of deal. but with the house saying look, we need the senate to do something, the last ditch effort is occurring in the senate right now. i spoke to staffers close to senator mcconnell that said there was optimism on their side yesterday, including from their boss, senator minority leader
all along we thought it would be between the obama white house and house speaker john boehner and there was a logic behind that. because getting legislation out of the house is the trickier part of crafting any type of deal. but with the house saying look, we need the senate to do something, the last ditch effort is occurring in the senate right now. i spoke to staffers close to senator mcconnell that said there was optimism on their side yesterday, including from their boss, senator minority...
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he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations. obviously, mcconnell doesn't want to have someone on the right come after him because he was in favor of a tax hike and john boehner's re-election as speaker of the house. and that would come across as a vote of no confidence. very embarrassing and they don't expect it happening and there's a lot at stake for mitch mcconnell and john boehner personally. great point you brought up. >> if the senate fails to come up with something, does the president have the votes? >> reporter: if harry rei
he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of...
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will john boehner bring up a boat that as democratic support. >> catherine: where is it john boehner? to bring up a -- about a boa vote -- vote we have been talking about this and does he lost control or lost his way. maybe not? bud john boehner has practically been invisible. >> the only remark he has made is that he if he does not like the idea that would require democratic passage would be the majority. to wondered 18 members of the majority have to do anything before with 280 members of the majority have to do something but the fact of his question that, 218 -- members. of the majority. >> catherine: really quickly, michael lots of a drawl but there could be items that could be retroactive. a loss of -- things that could be retroactive. >> the question is what damage has been done to the of economy and the business decisions. the problem is that businesses are getting ready to shut down and lay off workers. that is the big problem. >> catherine: and two, michael. sliding. right here on kron 4. if you'd like to connect with michael -you can follow >>> scientists who study genetics
will john boehner bring up a boat that as democratic support. >> catherine: where is it john boehner? to bring up a -- about a boa vote -- vote we have been talking about this and does he lost control or lost his way. maybe not? bud john boehner has practically been invisible. >> the only remark he has made is that he if he does not like the idea that would require democratic passage would be the majority. to wondered 18 members of the majority have to do anything before with 280...
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. >> if an agreement is not made soon between which mcconnell and house speaker, john boehner i will perch read to bring in agreement that will protect the middle-class. >> reporter: with a high- stakes meeting they seem poised to work towards a solution. >> we are going to work hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful. >> i am going to do everything i can in my power. what ever we come up with is not going to be perfect. some people are not going to like it. >> reporter: senate majority leader reed says that there were hoping not to have to meet on saturday and house speaker, john boehner will not bring anything until it is passed by the senate. however, if nothing is done unemployment benefits will expire payroll deduction will not be continued. >> if there are disagreements they will sort through them. the notion that our elected leadership cannot do the same thing is mind-boggling. it needs to stop. >> catherine: banks racked up a record 10-point-seven- billion dollars in fines in 20-12. that includes what the banks paid to u-s and state authorities-- bu
. >> if an agreement is not made soon between which mcconnell and house speaker, john boehner i will perch read to bring in agreement that will protect the middle-class. >> reporter: with a high- stakes meeting they seem poised to work towards a solution. >> we are going to work hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful. >> i am going to do everything i can in my power. what ever we come up with is not going to be perfect. some people are not...
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john boehner floated a plan that would have kept low rates for those making up to a million dollars. two house members talked to us earlier today about where the tax issue is likely heading. >> the $400,000 level seems to me to be about right. that represents about the top 1% of income earners in the country. we need to save tax hikes on as many americans as we can. i kind of feel like i'm a life guard and we got to save as many people from crown not guilty higher taxes as we can. >> the challenge is finding the right figure to win some republican support in the senate and attract enough votes to pass the house. kelly. >> kelly: interesting comment right there, feeling like a life guard. many people are wondering if they're going to do that on capitol hill. thanks so much. going to be an interesting new year. watch fox sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks with lindsey graham and nine fine stein. check your -- diane feinstein. >> heather: new york city police have a woman in custody who they believe killed a man by pushing him in front of an oncoming subway train. they released this v
john boehner floated a plan that would have kept low rates for those making up to a million dollars. two house members talked to us earlier today about where the tax issue is likely heading. >> the $400,000 level seems to me to be about right. that represents about the top 1% of income earners in the country. we need to save tax hikes on as many americans as we can. i kind of feel like i'm a life guard and we got to save as many people from crown not guilty higher taxes as we can....
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it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge senator reed to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike and extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance for two million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more cooperation on deficit reduction and economic growth. guys, i can hear you over there. i believe a proposal can pass both houses bipartisan majority. as long as they let it come to a vote. if members of the house or senate want to vote no, t
it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak....
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some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know what the outcome is going to be, the question is how much punishment do they want to take? it is possible that they would wait after january 1. they could say we're going to cut taxes now instead of vote to allow them to go up. gwen: let's move on. because there's one more thing we want to go to. from iran to syria to libya to egypt to israeli, palestinian standoff over gaza, the obama administration's wishes have seldom been grapted. >> we and the world have joined in condemning the brutality of the assad regime. >> no one wants to determine what happened that night in benghazi more than the president and i do. >> and this administration has either been guilty of colossal incompetence or engaged in a coverup. >> a red line should be drawn right here. before iran completes the second stage of nuclear
some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know what the outcome is going to be, the question is how much punishment do they want to take? it is possible that they would wait after january 1. they could say we're going to cut taxes now instead of vote to allow them to go up....
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>> even john boehner says that's a cut. the left thinks that's a cut -- >> no plan. there are no plans. >> let's go up to $400, if you want. so what we're talking about, eric, is a cut for 99% of americans. they keep the bush tax cuts. you would think republicans would be seb berating. >> juan's drinking the kool-aid, man. >> i agree that the republicans are no better in this -- >> oh! let me take your comment about drinking the kool-aid. you sold them on the kool-aid. >> what flavor is it, juan? grape? cherry. >> andrea, i have to disagree with you. he has been handed a house that went republican because they said, no raising taxes. >> eric -- >> he knew what he was getting into. >> he lost seats. he didn't have the votes to try to get some sort of deal passed. >> john boehner brought the house republicans. >> guess what's going to happen? he is going to get a worse deal -- a worse deal after the new year. that's the political reality. i work in the house for years. i know what this guy's a very shrewd operator -- >> who? >> yeah -- >> i want to ask -- we had this l
>> even john boehner says that's a cut. the left thinks that's a cut -- >> no plan. there are no plans. >> let's go up to $400, if you want. so what we're talking about, eric, is a cut for 99% of americans. they keep the bush tax cuts. you would think republicans would be seb berating. >> juan's drinking the kool-aid, man. >> i agree that the republicans are no better in this -- >> oh! let me take your comment about drinking the kool-aid. you sold them on the...
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the leadership or refer to speaker john boehner, minority leader eric cantor, kevin mccarthy. it's not for this class of 87 freshman. the class of 2010. would be minority leader boehner. these guys came and not beholden by any means to leadership and made it clear from the outset that they were not just going to be told to fall into line. the real problem for modeled this republican leadership, but to prove to be the case if the democrats regain power is that the enforcement tools of yesteryear are indeed of yesteryear, since it earmarks have now been banned, since the blogosphere you can turn somebody into an instant martyr by stripping them of their committee assignments. it's very, very hard to use a stake in addition to a kerry. there's a .. of my book i referred to after the debt ceiling fiasco of the summer of 2011 when they came back in yet another conjuring resolution used to fund the government and the obama administration had passed a budget was coming up. the republican leadership believed they couldn't use the vote in fact there are members voted against it. the ap
the leadership or refer to speaker john boehner, minority leader eric cantor, kevin mccarthy. it's not for this class of 87 freshman. the class of 2010. would be minority leader boehner. these guys came and not beholden by any means to leadership and made it clear from the outset that they were not just going to be told to fall into line. the real problem for modeled this republican leadership, but to prove to be the case if the democrats regain power is that the enforcement tools of yesteryear...
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john boehner interest a moderate. you're right. the tea party does not love him. one thing this is so hard politically is boehner doesn't want to shove down the throat of tea party members if he makes them vote on that, eric cantor could end up speaker. it's a dicey situation for boehner. >> that's why maybe if we go over the cliff and tax goes up on everybody and then they can vote in january to cut taxes on say 98% of people. that's sort of the reverse logic that the republicans will twist themselves into thinking that they've done something here, but either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. i think they finally understand that. >> the real issue is if i were boehner or mitch mcconnell, i would want to put this issue behind us as quickly as we can because we're going to move on to the gun control debate january, february, march. that's a very favorable issue for republicans. >> they wouldn't even go on tv to talk about it, but that's a separate issue. >> we're short on time. we're looking at sunday night the house coming back in presumably to vote on someth
john boehner interest a moderate. you're right. the tea party does not love him. one thing this is so hard politically is boehner doesn't want to shove down the throat of tea party members if he makes them vote on that, eric cantor could end up speaker. it's a dicey situation for boehner. >> that's why maybe if we go over the cliff and tax goes up on everybody and then they can vote in january to cut taxes on say 98% of people. that's sort of the reverse logic that the republicans will...
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speaker john boehner's congress is about to take the prize for inaction. this is not a bipartisan problem. as stated by both liberal and conservative analysts, "we have been studying washington politics and congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional in our past writings. we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the republican party." let's not forget that this was also the year that senator mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill, an act that drew the utter consternation of senator dick durbin. >> so this may be a moment in senate history, when a senator made a proposal, and when given an opportunity for a vote on that proposal, filibustered his own proposal. i think we've now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we've never seen before. i'm going to ask the parliamentaran to really look into this. i don't think this has ever happened before. >> that's not the kind of history you're proud of
speaker john boehner's congress is about to take the prize for inaction. this is not a bipartisan problem. as stated by both liberal and conservative analysts, "we have been studying washington politics and congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional in our past writings. we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the republican...
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by passing house speaker john boehner who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people. and that lays the ground work for deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the leaders they sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would take an extended period of time as you know, waiting for us. >> i share the view of the majority leader. we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussi
by passing house speaker john boehner who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is...
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after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion in revenue and the president doubles the number. then last week he said all right let's try and get as many after hostages out alive and try as keep taxes from going up and we couldn't get a single democrat to join with us on a single bill introduced this summer which was saving all taxpayers a million dollars and below from the tax rates going on. not a single democrat would join with us. this didn't a problem of two well intentioned negotiators not able to come up with a deal. this is the house having to negotiate with itself and the president who i believe is beginning to show his cards which is someone who doesn't really want to deal, who for whatever reason believes that it is to his political benefit or are a potential gain for us to go over this cliff to try and make us look obstinate in the house. >> greta: i have the president's statements so i will pick on him. he says i had a good and constructive discussion h
after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion in revenue and the president doubles the number. then last week he said all right let's try and get as many after hostages out alive and try as keep taxes from going up and we couldn't get a single democrat to join with us on a single bill introduced this summer which was saving all taxpayers a million dollars and below from the tax rates going on....
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house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations. he says the least congress can do is protect most american tax pairs from rising tax rates due to take effect in the next couple of days. the least, it appears, rebecca, appears to be the most they can do. >> thank you. we'll check back later in the program. for more on how we got into this situation and what happens if nothing happens. michael santoly, it's great to have both of you with us. where does this stand right now? >> right now they're negotiating and things are being worked out behind closed doors by the top leaders in the house and senate and the whi
house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations. he says the least...
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then you had plan b from john boehner, that failed as well. this is basically plan c. just deal with extending tax cuts for the middle class. deal with unemployment benefits running out for 2 million people and then deal with some small spending cuts. but not deal with the big, big spending cuts on medicare and some of those entitlement programs. that's one thing that frustrates republicans. they think the can is being kicked down on an important piece of this. spending. i can tell you earlier today republican ron lamar said the president is not doing enough. >> we need two words. presidential leadership on not just taxes rich people, we can tax all the rich people and cut their heads up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and
then you had plan b from john boehner, that failed as well. this is basically plan c. just deal with extending tax cuts for the middle class. deal with unemployment benefits running out for 2 million people and then deal with some small spending cuts. but not deal with the big, big spending cuts on medicare and some of those entitlement programs. that's one thing that frustrates republicans. they think the can is being kicked down on an important piece of this. spending. i can tell you earlier...
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you have to go further. >> it might be easier for john boehner if he it pass the senate. and it comes to the house and sigh look, this is the only train to dodge. >> is the only train just about the tax rates or hikes or a grander deal. >> i think it is, the president is right, the extension unemployment, and i think it will be the tax rates. but i think there's going to be enough matters left as well. but i think there will be enough matters left that it will force them. and that's why you want to have at least a minimum of goodwill. it will force them to have to deal with the larger issues still remainingment and they're considerable. >> you think so? >> those will still be out there. >> there still the general debt problem. still the crushing deficit is so they still have to do some big things let alone optimism gration reform and other stuff. it's a little like tarp, remember the hse voted no then the markets just could lapsd. i think we might see something like that in the first week in january and then a focus. but they will still be with cooperation. >> we have alr
you have to go further. >> it might be easier for john boehner if he it pass the senate. and it comes to the house and sigh look, this is the only train to dodge. >> is the only train just about the tax rates or hikes or a grander deal. >> i think it is, the president is right, the extension unemployment, and i think it will be the tax rates. but i think there's going to be enough matters left as well. but i think there will be enough matters left that it will force them. and...
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you gave your bletszing ing bl proposal that john boehner put forward. so many congressional republicans are scared of voting for something that feels like, looks like, smells like a tax increase because they're worried your organization will come back to haunt them because you signed a pledge. you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> okay. because the pledge is not to me. it's to the american people. it's to the people of the state that any congressman or senator is from. they have to feel that they can go to their constituents and say i voted against all efforts to raise taxes. i argued having read the boehner plan, it was silent on the taxing people who make more than a million dollars, it made permanent as opposed to obama who wants to just protect you for a year, he made permanent the tax cuts for people who made less than $250,000 a year, actually a million dollars a year. and as a result, it was a giant step towards pro
you gave your bletszing ing bl proposal that john boehner put forward. so many congressional republicans are scared of voting for something that feels like, looks like, smells like a tax increase because they're worried your organization will come back to haunt them because you signed a pledge. you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> okay. because the pledge...
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that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told about meetings about ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. not sure how they are going to hammer out details in the house. the principle negotiators. the leadership from both parties could be brought in later in the day. president obama has said, he said yesterday that if those leaders and those congressional negotiators cannot figure out how to compromise, then is he going to tell the senate just to vote anyways because he thinks with an up or down vote, senators with a support the plan that is already out there. the main hold up with the deal so far has been a fight over who should be classifi
that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told...
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that's where we'd get that make or break moment where john boehner either says i'm going to put this on the floor or i won't. but it will go right up to the last minute. >> fantastic, thank you very much. >>> and a brief program note. david gregory will have an exclusive interview with the president on the fiscal cliff crisis. that's tomorrow on "meet the press." >> kind of sobering when you hear john say if it wasn't for the deadline, we wouldn't probably be as close to this point. >>> want to check now some of the other top stories from jenna wolf. good morning. >>> good morning. promising news for the victims of superstorm sandy. $60 billion emergency aid package sailed through the senate friday with backing from democrats. however, the bill does face an uncertain future now in the house where republican leaders want to cut that aid package by more than half. >>> federal prosecutors are accusing a neighbor of arming an ex-con who fatally shot two firefighters responding to a house fire in western new york on christmas eve. they say the woman, dawn nguyen of rochester, knew spengle
that's where we'd get that make or break moment where john boehner either says i'm going to put this on the floor or i won't. but it will go right up to the last minute. >> fantastic, thank you very much. >>> and a brief program note. david gregory will have an exclusive interview with the president on the fiscal cliff crisis. that's tomorrow on "meet the press." >> kind of sobering when you hear john say if it wasn't for the deadline, we wouldn't probably be as...
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. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until late next year. top senate republicans sound hopeful a deal can be reached. >> we are engaged in discussions, majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> among the issues to be hammered out shall the threshold for extending the push tax cuts and president obama campaigned and sounds like, 400,000 may be where they're heading. a leader says that permanency is key, and fixing the deat
. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment...
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the president sat down with house speaker john boehner and other congressional leaders in hopes of cutting a last-minute deal. >> we have a constructive meeting today. . reid and senator mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement were making get a bipartisan bill out of the senate, into the house, at a timely fashion so we can meet the december 31 deadline. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i'm optimistic. >> senate leaders are hoping to come back with a proposal as early as sunday. >> whatever become up with, it will be imperfect. some people will not like it, some will like it less but that is where we are. >> the president says if an agreement is not reached by the deadline, he will urge the senate -- senate majority leader to hold a vote on a basic patches -- a thick package that makes sure taxes do not increase on middle income and lower income americans. >> the house will hold a rare sunday session this weekend. votes are scheduled for early evening. speaker boehner is not expected to put anything on the floor for a vote unless he is sure
the president sat down with house speaker john boehner and other congressional leaders in hopes of cutting a last-minute deal. >> we have a constructive meeting today. . reid and senator mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement were making get a bipartisan bill out of the senate, into the house, at a timely fashion so we can meet the december 31 deadline. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i'm optimistic. >> senate leaders are...
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boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you know what that means. it's make or break time for the redskins as they face the dallas cowboys tomorrow at fedex field. the winner is in the playoffs. jason is here with more. >> one more day and we'll see if the redskins are in the post season. six straight victories turned around the season. but this team isn't concerned about the past. come sunday none of that matters at fedex field. >> another game we have to go out and win. and that's the way we look at it. so, you know, every moment in your life is the biggest one at that time. we look forward to having many more of these but we have to take care of this one. >> the stakes are high, and emotions are going to be high. and we just got come out. we have to be perfect if we want to win the game. >> this game is going to be everything we got. there is no savin
boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you know what that means. it's make or break time for the redskins as they face the dallas cowboys tomorrow at fedex field. the winner is in the playoffs. jason is here with more. >> one more day and we'll see if the redskins...
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john boehner had said explicitly he's waiting for the senate to act. they won't do anything until that happens. it's really up in the air where we all go from here. there is a little bit of optimism i will say that folks think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid can work something out that won't be a perfect deal. a lot of folks saying they don't like it won't deal with the sequester. that perhaps it won't cut enough taxes, raise any taxes. you'll get sniping from both sides. but there's a hint of optimism this could be averted by new year's eve before the ball drops. >> luke russert throwing around the word optimism this morning. >> we'll see, my friend. we'll see. >> i haven't heard that word a lot this morning. so thank you for that. good to see you. let me head over to nbc's kristen welker. see if she can match that optimism. also, kristen, even if this doesn't work out it sounds like the president might have a backup plan of some kind. >> reporter: that's right. when president obama met with top congressional leaders here at the white house for ab
john boehner had said explicitly he's waiting for the senate to act. they won't do anything until that happens. it's really up in the air where we all go from here. there is a little bit of optimism i will say that folks think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid can work something out that won't be a perfect deal. a lot of folks saying they don't like it won't deal with the sequester. that perhaps it won't cut enough taxes, raise any taxes. you'll get sniping from both sides. but there's a hint...
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the strong bipartisan vote gives impetus to the bill and says to speaker john boehner, this bill has bipartisan support not only in the senate but the house. do not ignore the needs of the new yorkers, new jersey knights and others who have suffered. we have a desperate situation in new york. we have home owners waiting and watching to see if this bill would pass so that they could begin to think about getting help to rebuild their homes. we have small-business owners watching and waiting to see of this bill would pass, to see if they can get help to get their businesses going. we have governments large and small like along the beach and so many others on long island waking to see if they will get some relief so they could move forward with their plans. we beat back most of the crippling amendments. we beat back all of the crippling amendments and most of the amendments. it is a very good day for this and that it. the century-old tradition of different parts of the country rallying to help those that are beleaguered because of the difficult natural disasters. the 12 republicans voted
the strong bipartisan vote gives impetus to the bill and says to speaker john boehner, this bill has bipartisan support not only in the senate but the house. do not ignore the needs of the new yorkers, new jersey knights and others who have suffered. we have a desperate situation in new york. we have home owners waiting and watching to see if this bill would pass so that they could begin to think about getting help to rebuild their homes. we have small-business owners watching and waiting to...
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i think rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something a little more top call, which is john boehner and eric cantor. even politico was saying a year ago they call for a truce, their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january 3rd. boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer deal and eric cantor, if he goes into boehner's role, he has to do the same thing boehner wants to do. >> the starting quarterback hates the number two quarterback and boehner, if he was smart, he should have dispatched him a long time ago and said, young man, i'm going to put you out to pasture if you pull that crap on me again. he made a mista
i think rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something a little more top call, which is john boehner and eric cantor. even politico was saying a year ago they call for a truce, their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january 3rd. boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world?...